Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, STDST.S. Nation and welcome to this back-to-back episode of Surviving The Survivor,

the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of

She Good Crime and another amazing panel coming

your way.

Carm said, don't whine about how many shows

you've done today, but I will let you know we covered this press

conference at 11 a.m. Eastern time that was about an hour and a half just did an hour

and a half show and we are now doing another show so it'll be the fastest 90 minutes of your life

but a long Monday but happy to be spending it with STS Nation no one else I'd

rather be spending it with with With that said, the search for two moms murdered in Oklahoma now sadly appears to be over.

The OSPI saying it recovered the remains of two bodies on Sunday, that would be yesterday.

The medical examiner now working to determine cause and manner of death,

the condition of their bodies when they were found or how they were found, that

is anybody's guess.

Four people were arrested in connection with the disappearance of Veronica Butler and

Jillian Kelly. They are Tad Column, uh, 43.

Tiffany Adams, who is the grandmother of Eronica Butler's young children,

Cole Earl Twombly, 50, and Cora Twombly, and you're looking at them right now.

I feel like any time you've got a story out of the Midwest like the plains that you've got to

have one killer whose middle name is Earl and this guy Cole Earl Twombly fits the bill.

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