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The Quanta Podcast

Neutrinos Lead to Unexpected Discovery in Basic Math

The Quanta Podcast

Quanta Magazine

Life Sciences, Science, Physics

4.7638 Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2020

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Three physicists stumbled across an unexpected relationship between some of the most ubiquitous objects in math.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Quantum Magazine's podcast.

0:06.0

Each episode, we bring you stories about developments in science and mathematics.

0:11.0

I'm Susan Vallett.

0:13.0

After breakfast one morning last summer, UCLA mathematician Terence Tau opened an email from three physicists he didn't know. In it, a surprise.

0:29.3

In the email, the three physicists explained to Tao that they'd stumbled across a simple formula.

0:36.9

If true, it established an unexpected relationship between some of the most basic and important

0:43.4

objects in linear algebra.

0:46.3

Tao, who's a Fields Medalist and one of the world's leading mathematicians, remember seeing

0:51.8

that email.

0:52.6

And I looked at it, and it looked too good to be true. Like something this short and simple, it should have been in textbooks already. There'd be a name attached to it, you know, so-and-so's role or whatever. So my first thought was, no, this can't be true. Tell thought about it some more. I couldn't immediately see whether it wasn't. I tried a few examples, and it worked out. And then I got intrigued.

1:14.6

It was close enough to something that I had already done. There's another identity that I knew about relating these quantities or something else, which I could use as a starting point.

1:18.3

And then I spent the whole morning just working it out.

1:20.6

The physicists who sent the email were Stephen Park of Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory,

1:30.1

Sheeneng Zhang of the University of Chicago,

1:37.2

and Peter Denton of Brookhaven National Laboratory. They'd arrived at the mathematical identity about two months earlier while grappling with the strange behavior of particles called neutrinos.

1:46.5

Park says they discovered it when they were building up to a very big experiment at Fermilab.

1:49.8

Sending a beam of neutrinos from Fermilab to South Dakota into a detector in a mine in South

1:57.9

Dakota, which is 1,300 kilometers through the Earth.

2:03.6

So we were trying to understand what happens to neutrinos as they pass through the Earth.

2:11.6

They'd noticed that hard-to-compute terms called eigenvectors,

2:16.6

describing in this case the ways that neutrinos

2:20.5

propagate through matter were equal to combinations of terms called eigenvalues, which are

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