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The Quanta Podcast

Machines Beat Humans on a Reading Test. But Do They Understand?

The Quanta Podcast

Quanta Magazine

Life Sciences, Science, Physics

4.7638 Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2020

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

A tool known as BERT can now beat humans on advanced reading-comprehension tests. But it's also revealed how far AI has to go.

The post Machines Beat Humans on a Reading Test. But Do They Understand? first appeared on Quanta Magazine

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0:00.0

Welcome to Quantum Magazine's podcast.

0:06.0

Each episode we bring you stories about developments in science and mathematics.

0:11.0

I'm Susan Vallett.

0:13.0

Turns out machines can read, but can they truly understand?

0:18.0

That's what some scientists are trying to figure out, and they're getting help from

0:22.5

a machine with a name associated more with rubber duckies.

0:30.5

In the fall of 2017, Sam Bowman figured that computers still weren't very good at understanding the written word.

0:39.3

Bowman's a computational linguist at New York University.

0:43.3

Sure, computers had become decent at simulating the understanding of written word in certain narrow domains,

0:50.3

like automatic translation or sentiment analysis.

0:57.9

For example, determining if a sentence sounds mean or nice.

1:05.6

But Bowman wanted measurable evidence of the genuine article, bona fide, human-style, reading comprehension in English.

1:07.6

So he came up with a test.

1:09.7

Bowman co-authored a paper in April of 2018 with collaborators

1:14.0

from the University of Washington and Deep Mind, the Google-owned artificial intelligence company.

1:20.6

In it, Bowman introduced nine reading comprehension tasks for computers. He dubbed the tasks

1:27.2

glue, general language understanding evaluation.

1:31.4

This seemed like a fairly normal sample, a fairly representative sample of what the community

1:35.9

thought were interesting language understanding tasks.

1:39.2

Glue and super glue are deliberately built on these tasks that we think should be pretty

1:43.7

straightforward for humans.

1:44.8

That anyone who is a fluent English speaker who's got something like an undergraduate education,

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