The term there's always the possibility for repair has true depth of meaning

from a scientific perspective, not just a behavioral perspective.

And that's what I call embodiment.

You know, that I think that many of the adaptive strategies that we acquire to do the best we can with what we have are energy consuming.

And that the original design, which is in our DNA, is the road of ease.

That's just how I think of it. So we've just, in our adaptations, we're using up

energy to create relationships that require more vigilance and attunement than just

falling into that ease of relationship. But it's still in us. And so it's

finding it, remembering it, knowing it, and embodying it as a reference point, and not one that's

sustainable, but one that is findable within. So that, again, it's not just how do I be

in relationship with other, but how do I find safety in my own self for the place of health

and well-being.

Welcome to Therapist Uncensored. Building on decades of professional experience,

this podcast tackles neurobiology, modern attachment,

and more, in an honest way that's helpful in healing humans.

Your session begins now with Dr. Anne Kelly and Sue Marriott.

Hey, everyone.

Welcome back to Therapists Uncensored.

I'm Anne Kelly.

And our guest today is Kim Barthel.

She is an occupational therapist, author, speaker, who specializes in working with trauma and has so for many, many years.

Welcome to the show, Kim.

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