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Therapist Uncensored Podcast

How Modern Attachment Meets Polyvagal Theory with Dr. Stephen Porges (262)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Ann and Sue share a special conversation with Dr. Stephen Porges where they explore how modern attachment meets Polyvagal theory. From the evolution of attachment theory to understanding bodily states and how they influence our interactions, they dive into the intricate relationships between emotional expression, brain function, and therapeutic techniques. Together they explore the Safe and Sound Protocol and its role in promoting engagement as well as insights into the application of these techniques both
professionally and personally.

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0:00.0

We are in a world that is always telling us it's dangerous.

0:07.1

And it's always telling us that others, the stranger, is dangerous.

0:11.4

And our nervous system really is a fast learner.

0:16.1

We're not going to be accessible to the stranger because we have been taught our lessons and we don't want to be injured.

0:22.9

So we have two things occurring. We have normal adaptive features of a body that needs to be held

0:28.3

and hugged and connected. And we also have our top down learning capacity, which says these are

0:34.0

signals of danger. I better respect them. So we basically, through both directions,

0:39.1

we end up, this is pulling back from the social nourishment that is around us. And we would call that

0:45.4

disorganized attachment. Or we have relationships where people think by nature of their biological

0:51.5

parenthood or relationship that they are attached when they're not

0:56.2

giving any signal that they are carrying or protecting of the other.

1:02.6

Welcome to Therapist Uncensored. Building on decades of professional experience, this podcast

1:07.9

tackles neurobiology, modern attachment, and more in an honest way that's

1:12.1

helpful in healing humans. Your session begins now with Dr. Anne Kelly and Sue Marriott.

1:23.6

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