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This is RICOad Media with Peter Kafka.

That is me.

I am here with Karen Mondabak. Did I pronounce your name correctly? I just asked you if I was pronouncing it correctly.

It's like Mandabak. If you're from the Midwest.

I've already screwed up the intro. This is why I'm not a professional media person. I only play one on podcasting.

Karen worked on and in some cases helped create some of the biggest hits in TV's history.

Cosby Show, Roseanne, Third Rock from the Sun, that 70s show.

And now in an era where hit TV shows are very, very hard to come by.

She's got another one.

She's the woman behind Peaky Blinders, which just finished his sixth and final season. It's one of the biggest shows on Netflix and that global audience. And unlike other hit shows these days, this one is not owned by the network that distributes it. Karen owns it. Welcome, Karen. Hey, Peter, thanks. Good to be with you. I've summed up your entire life. Anything left to talk about? Nurse Jackie. You can mention that too. Karen, you've got a wealth of info about the history

of TV because you were there for a lot of it. But I want to talk about the present, first of all.

A lot of people watch Peaky Blinders, like I just said. But for those who don't watch it,

what is it? Why should they watch it?

Pinky Blinders First and Formas is a show about family and about aspiration and about class and about race, I suppose, in America and about, I guess, one of the best quotes is, I'm just the best example of what a working class man can hope to

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