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A Way with Words - language, linguistics, and callers from all over

Nerd vs Geek (rebroadcast) - 15 August 2011

A Way with Words - language, linguistics, and callers from all over

A Way with Words

Education, Language Learning, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 15 August 2011

⏱️ 52 minutes

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SUMMARYWhat do the words marathon, paisley, and bikini have in common? They're all words that derive from the names of places. Martha and Grant talk toponyms. Also, what's the difference between a nerd and a geek? Why do some Marines greet each other with the word "Yambo"? And what do you call the crust that forms at the corners of your eyes after a night's sleep?FULL DETAILSWhat do the words marathon, paisley, and bikini have in common? They're all words that derive from the names of places. Martha and Grant talk about these and other toponyms.What's the difference between a nerd and a geek? An Ohio professor of popular culture wants to talk about it. Here's the Metafilter thread mentioned in that discussion.http://bit.ly/Nl38hHere's a Venn Diagram about nerds, geeks, dorks, and dweebs. http://bit.ly/aJxb9EIn the Pacific Northwest, the term spendy means "expensive." Grant has an update on the jocular pronunciation of "skedooly" for the word schedule. The original discussion about it is here:http://waywordradio.org/chester-drawers/Puzzle Guy John Chaneski presents a quiz called "Repeat after Me." It's a quiz that's neither so-so nor too-too. A Marine at Camp Pendleton says that while in Iraq, he and his buddies heard the greeting "Yambo!" from Ugandan troops there. Now they use it with each other, and he wonders about its literal meaning. Martha explains that it's a common Kiswahili term.In the novel Jane Eyre, characters sometimes speak whole sentences in French. A high school English teacher says her students wonder if there's a term for inserting whole sentences from another language into fiction. Grant talks about the use of foreignisms and loanwords.Martha has a crazy crossword clue sent by a listener: "Camel's Nemesis." Twelve letters. Got it?Residents of Maine are called "Mainers," people in Texas are "Texans," those in Wisconsin are "Wisconsinites," and people in Phoenix are . . . Phoenicians"? Grant and Martha explain that there are consistent rules for the naming the locals. The book they reference is Paul Dickson's Labels for Locals.http://bit.ly/eXeAWxMartha and Grant offer gift recommendations for language lovers:Through the Language Glass: Why the World Looks Different in Other Languages, by Guy Deutscherhttp://bit.ly/bSjZONOK: The Improbable Story of America's Greatest Word, by Allan Metcalfhttp://bit.ly/igLJn8Lost in Lexicon: An Adventure in Words and Numbershttp://www.lostinlexicon.com/Dreaming in Chinese: Mandarin Lessons in Life, Love, and Language http://www.deborahfallows.com/What do you call the crust that forms in the corners of your eyes when you sleep? Sleepydust, sleepysand, eyejam, slam, eye boogers, eye potatoes, sleep sugar, eye crusties, sleepyjacks. An Indiana man wonders if anyone else uses his family's term for it, cat butter.Is the proper phrase toe the line or tow the line?Grant talks about how that great American export, the word OK, was part of the first conversation on the surface of the moon.You upgrade your software, and instead of working better, it's worse. Is there a word for that phenomenon? Downgrade? Oopsgrade? How about Newcoked?Poutrage is a new term for "acting outraged when you're really not.
 It's sort of like accismus, "the pretended refusal of something actually very much desired."--A Way with Words is funded by its listeners: http://waywordradio.org/donateGet your language question answered on the air! Call or write with your questions at any time:Email: [email protected]: United States and Canada toll-free (877) WAY-WORD/(877) 929-9673London +44 20 7193 2113Mexico City +52 55 8421 9771Donate: http://waywordradio.org/donateSite: http://waywordradio.org/Podcast: http://waywordradio.org/podcast/Forums: http://waywordradio.org/discussion/Newsletter: http://waywordradio.org/newsletter/Twitter: http://twitter.com/wayword/Skype: skype://waywordradio Copyright 2011, Wayword LLC.very much desired." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You're listening to Away with Words. I'm Grant Barrett.

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And I'm Martha Barnett. Recently a friend of mine ran a marathon and I was really proud of

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her but it also got me to thinking. about running a marathon so I did you should

1:04.4

run the marathon it got me thinking grant of course about toponyms oh oh I think I know

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where you're going yeah I bet you do I'm going about 26.2 miles to the origin of the word marathon, which goes back to the story of the ancient Greeks defeating the Persians at the town of marathon in ancient Greece and they dispatched a messenger

1:25.8

to Athens to spread the good news and he ran a long way to get there before announcing

1:31.5

it. And I was thinking about toponyms

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and the fact that the Greek word topos

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means place, and that's where we get the word

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for that kind of thing.

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And then I started thinking, because you

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have to do something while you're waiting for your friend to finish a marathon.

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I started thinking about the fact that had she run that marathon in a Paisley bikini, we'd have even more

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