Nellie Bowles on How the Revolution Went Mainstream

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.6 • 907 Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2024

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Yascha Mounk and Nellie Bowles discuss her career at The New York Times and reporting on the ground from urban “autonomous zones” in 2020. Nellie Bowles is a writer and reporter and the head of strategy at The Free Press, where she writes the TGIF column. Her book is Morning After the Revolution: Dispatches from the Wrong Side of History. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Nellie Bowles discuss how she came to chafe against the institutional culture of The New York Times and why she left; how new power hierarchies arose within media and institutions where small groups came to wield outsized power; and how the transformative ideas about power and society that became dominant in 2020 continue to hold great influence. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Sometimes you can feel a vibration in Orkney. It takes over the whole island.
0:06.0	Based on the memoir by Amy Lipprot's, critics are calling the Outrun a masterpiece.
0:11.0	I miss it. I miss how good it made me feel.
0:16.7	Sasha Ronan gives a magnificent performance.
0:19.7	The waves roll into the shore in time with my beating heart.
0:24.4	The Outrun in cinema September 27th.
0:28.7	Book tickets now.
0:31.2	But what makes this American movement so American is that it was actually and it still is very much imbued with the anti-fascist anarchist mentality, which is the laws are for losers.
0:45.7	The laws are stupid.
0:47.0	The laws themselves are part of the capitalist monster machine.
0:52.1	So paying to ride the subway.
0:54.2	That's a monstrous law that shouldn't be followed.
0:57.8	And we should celebrate breaking that law.
1:00.1	We should celebrate sort of having no rules. And it's very uniquely American in a sort of really fun way.
1:07.0	And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. Hi, I'm Matt Johnson.
1:17.0	Persuasion recently published my article,
1:19.1	We Keep failing the blasphemy test,
1:21.1	which takes a look at an ugly episode of religious bullying and
1:24.4	censorship in the UK and considers what this episode tells us about the state of
1:29.2	free expression, pluralism, and other liberal values today.
1:33.0	After a teacher at the Batley Grammar School in West Yorkshire
1:36.0	showed his class a caricature of Mohammed
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