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Hi guys, it's Kathy Heller. Welcome back to the podcast. I'm so excited about today's

show because Neil Paserisha is here and he's such a good person and he has such incredible

things to say that he restores my faith in humankind. You know, sometimes especially

over the last couple weeks, I see things on social media or I hear things people say

and there's such hate out there. Oh my gosh, it's hard to even believe it honestly because

I have so much love for human beings and then I see stuff like that and it hurts, it hurts

so much. But when I talk to someone like Neil, I am reminded of how good we can be and

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