And now, the moment, with Brian Coppelman.

Hey, this is the moment.

I'm Brian Coppelman.

Thanks for listening.

If you've been listening a while, you know, I usually do an introduction before my guest is here, but today, because A, my guest showed up early, and B, we had no sound or power here at first. We're just going to do the whole thing together.

My guest though, I had a whole introduction prepared, Neil.

My guest is the incredible writer, director Neil Berger.

You know his movies, ranging from the illusionist starring Edward Norton, Paul Germatti,

and Jessica Beal to Divergent, starring

Shelene Woolsley and...

Shewahdley.

Her, Sheilane Woodley, who's my, like one my daughter's absolute favorites. I messed that up.

Kate Winslet, Theo James.

They're all very good, by the way, and Divergent.

Limitless. A huge favorite of mine starring Bobbert Deinaro and

known by many other names, DeNiro and Bradley Cooper and and a long time friend of mine and someone with whom I've worked

repeatedly. Neil thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me.

This is great.

You know, I think people, I'm always really interested in how people stick with something even and in their own belief in themselves, even in the face of an

industry, our industry, but any industry, being really late to recognize.

So I kind of want to start with,

where do you go to college?

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