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🗓️ 29 March 2019
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"I would have liked to have had Canada. Twice, we invaded Canada during my lifetime, and failed on both occasions."
— Clay S. Jenkinson portraying Thomas Jefferson
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| 0:00.0 | Good Day citizens and welcome to what would Jefferson do our weekly opportunity to discuss |
| 0:07.3 | current American events with President Thomas Jefferson who is seated across for |
| 0:12.2 | me now and good day to you Mr. Jefferson. |
| 0:15.0 | Good day to you citizen. |
| 0:17.0 | Mr. Jefferson I wanted to talk to you about a letter you wrote to James Madison in April of 1809 the Ney Plus Ultra letter. Do you remember this, sir? |
| 0:28.0 | Yes, I wrote this letter just after leaving the presidency. I was president of the United States from the fourth day of March 1801 |
| 0:35.0 | until the fourth day of March 1809. I had just returned to my own home at |
| 0:39.6 | Montecello when I wrote this. I bring this up because you sir are one who wants good relations with all |
| 0:47.9 | entanglements with none I believe you put it that is true I'm an |
| 0:51.6 | isolationist particularly with respect to the old world and later, |
| 0:57.0 | a number of years after this letter, I helped my protege James Monroe formulate what's known as the Monroe Doctrine, that the Western |
| 1:05.8 | Hemisphere is permanently off limits to European colonial designs. |
| 1:10.8 | So reading this letter, maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but it sounds sort of imperialist almost as if you are going to go out and grab land. |
| 1:20.0 | Well, not particularly. I did envision that our republic would eventually extend from the Atlantic all the way to the Pacific. |
| 1:27.0 | It might be decades, maybe hundreds of years before that happened, but it seemed to be clear that this continent, |
| 1:36.2 | certainly the center of it was going to be an American experiment in Liberty. |
| 1:40.6 | I also wanted Canada. I don't like the idea that the British have a foothold in the |
| 1:46.6 | new world. I wish we could press them off of the Western Hemisphere once and for all. |
| 1:53.0 | And so, yes, I would have liked to have had Canada twice. |
| 1:56.0 | We invaded Canada during my lifetime and failed on both occasions. |
| 2:01.0 | And then Napoleon, this letter of 1809 is really about Napoleon Bonaparte |
| 2:07.0 | he was wanting some aid and comfort from the United States and I knew that we could ask something in return and what I |
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