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Money Tree Investing

Navigating Today's Investment Landscape with Elliott Holland

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Business, Investing

4.6732 Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

Elliott Holland is back with us to help us explore today's investing landscape. We discuss concerns about illiquidity, continuation funds, and efforts to expand private equity access into retirement accounts such as 401(k)s, as those moves may be driven by a need for liquidity rather than investor benefit. We also talk how investor psychology, ego, and exclusivity often influence capital allocation, while experienced investors should focus instead on fundamentals like who has better information in a transaction and whether there are multiple ways to win in an investment. We dive into emerging areas like search funds, small business acquisitions, and roll-up strategies, highlighting both their potential and risks. There is importance to patience in investing, as technologies like AI may reshape research, decision-making, and competitive advantages for investors and business owners.

We discuss...

  • Whether private equity still deserves its reputation as producing the smartest investors and best returns in finance.
  • Private equity returns have declined over the past decade and in many cases barely outperform the S&P 500.
  • Mezzanine debt is highlighted as an alternative that has historically produced better returns with less risk and shorter lockups than private equity.
  • Continuation funds and other mechanisms allow private equity firms to extend holding periods when they cannot find buyers.
  • Some private equity firms are struggling with liquidity because they cannot exit deals at the valuations they promised investors.
  • Illiquid investments with mediocre returns may not be worth the long lockup periods required.
  • How exclusivity and the desire to invest alongside prestigious managers can lead investors to overlook fundamentals.
  • How Wall Street often profits regardless of whether the underlying investments succeed.
  • The Stanford model of funded search funds is historically producing strong reported returns.
  • Increased competition for small business deals may be inflating prices and reducing returns.
  • In some cases sellers may misrepresent financial performance to attract inexperienced buyers.
  • Roll-ups can work when a larger buyer eventually acquires the combined platform at a premium valuation.
  • Real estate is an example where multiple exit paths can justify accepting illiquidity.
  • Periods of market stress often create the best opportunities for patient investors.
  • Investors often regret not having enough capital ready during market downturns.
  • The conversation also examines how smaller investors may have advantages over large institutions in finding niche deals.
  • How new technologies and economic changes may create opportunities for the next generation of investors.
  • AI is described as a productivity tool that can accelerate research and idea development, though AI outputs are not always reliable and require human judgment.
  • Experienced professionals who combine domain knowledge with AI tools may gain a major advantage.
  • Leaders should ensure someone within their organization is actively monitoring AI developments.
  • Investors and entrepreneurs should stay curious, patient, and disciplined while adapting to changing markets and technologies.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast. Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life. Hello, Smart Money Tree Podcast listeners. Welcome to the sweet show. My name is Kirk Chisholm. I'll be your host. And today I'm joined with Elliot Holland. How are you doing it, Elliot. I'm doing amazing. You're always doing

0:21.6

amazing. That's why I like talking to you. Well, those of you didn't remember, we had a raw

0:26.3

episode, Ellie and I were just talking off the cuff. We didn't plan on releasing it, but it was such a

0:30.6

good conversation that we released it and got a lot of positive feedback. So if you haven't heard it,

0:35.1

please do. But bring Elliott on to talk again and probably

0:38.8

more commonly because the conversations are, from our perspective, are interesting. And so that's

0:44.7

why we do this and hopefully you benefit from it as well. For those of you haven't heard,

0:48.8

Elliot in the past, Elliot, tell us a bit about your background before we dive right in.

0:52.2

Yeah, I got a fancy MBA from Harvard.

0:54.9

I worked in private equity and quickly understood that owning the equity as opposed to representing

0:59.9

others' equity was the key to both freedom and financial wealth. I spent the next six or seven years

1:07.0

working as an independent sponsor and other various kind of unfunded private equity instruments.

1:14.5

Struggled a bit getting deals across the finish line, I think I didn't have enough rich uncles,

1:18.5

honestly, Kirk. And then I had all these fancy skills that I had to figure out how to monetize.

1:23.8

And I saw the new ecosystem of what I'll call like the fake easy money deal and all of the people who proposed that buying a million dollar business with a personal guarantee is eating a slice of a buy.

1:36.3

And so I started a financial due diligence business that produces an audit like product Quality of Rearnings to help save people who

1:45.2

hear these kind of crazy tales and have the ambition to go after it, which I love,

1:51.7

but need a conservative view on the business assets they're buying to save them from going broke and bankrupt.

1:59.0

And then did that for seven years.

2:02.0

And then I added some educational products,

2:04.3

like a mastermind last year, to help people who are struggling,

2:07.8

getting through the malarkey of data and understanding

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