When his wife became pregnant with their fourth child, Greg panicked, but a focus on the family counselor put everything into perspective.

He said, the first thing you need to realize that kids are a blessing or all of the

blessings that their gifts from God and the second thing you said was kid value

relationships not stuff. I'm Jim Daly let's give more families hope. Any gift you send will be doubled at

Focus on the Family.com slash gift.

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relationship insights at focus on the family dot com slash marriage podcast.

You know there's something extra special about a couple who goes the distance

by keeping their commitment to each other you see a long-term marriage and it's just

like that's awesome and the journey probably had some bumps in the road, but there's nothing as rewarding as crossing the finish line strong.

I'm John Fuller joined by Greg Smalley and his wife Aaron. And we're going to return now to a conversation

with Dr. Gary Chapman best known for his book,

The Five Love Languages, as he talked with Jim Daly

and me about building a lasting foundation for your marriage.

We've spent a lot of time encouraging, hopefully, couples to think about how they recognize

their differences and their needs and to communicate them openly, set up a time even once a week as you've talked about to encourage honest dialogue.

What can I do to help you? What can I do? What can I do? What can I change in myself that actually would benefit you and

I'm willing to do that that is so Christ-like it screams Ephesians your

ability to lay down your life for your spouse.

It's a wonderful thing.

When you look at marriages today,

is it simply that we're not training young married people, you know middle-aged married people to think in

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