You're listening to the podcast, Think Biblically, conversations on faith and culture.

I'm your host Sean McDowell, an author, speaker, an apologics professor at Talbot School of Theology here at Biola University.

I'm your co-host Scott Ray, professor of Christian ethics also at Talbot School of Theology.

Thanks so much for joining us.

We are back for a second show with Brett Kunkle.

Brett, you went to Biola as an undergrad did your masters in philosophy at

Talbot 11 years of youth pastor 14 years with standard reason that means

you've been in youth ministry 25 years quarter of a century, and your grandpa.

That means I started when I was 10 years old.

That's crazy.

Exactly.

And you've got a super neat ministry called Maven that we would encourage listeners to check out.

But you also have a new book out that you wrote with John Stone Street.

Well, I mean, let's be honest, I actually just let John put his name on there but you know if

someone had to do the heavy lifting we're having John on next

you're aware of that after you say you better rain it in I know John was a great co-author.

It was a great project to work together on.

I think we brought some unique things to it and brought that together.

You gave a chance to endorse it and I was more than happy to. But let me

add just kind of the big question. It's called a practical guide to

culture helping the next generation navigate today's world. Let's start with a 30,000 foot view. Why did you write this

book? What were you hoping to accomplish with it? I have five reasons for writing this

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