Welcome back to the podcast Think Bivocally. Conversations on Faith and Culture.

I'm your host Sean McDowell, an author, speaker, and apologetics professor at

Talbot School of Theology here at Biale University.

And I'm your co-host, Scott Ray, professor of Christian ethics, also at Talbot School of Theology.

We're here with a friend today of Biola, a friend of Talbot.

Brett Conkel, you are a youth minister for 11 years, and then you work with

Stand to Reason for 14 years.

So you have a passion for young people, but also worldview and apologetics.

And yet you've just launched this new unique ministry with a vision and it's called

Maven. Tell us first off what does that mean and what's the idea behind it?

That's the number one question we get. What is Maven? It's actually a word that refers to

someone who is knowledgeable and passes that knowledge on. So for instance you

might have a finance maven or a fashion maven right and so for us that's

really what we want to be for young people we want to we want to take the

knowledge of the truth the truth of Christianity and pass it on to young people. That's what we want them to become.

We want them to become mavens who know the truth of Christ and pass it on.

And then we want to help equip parents, youth leaders, pastors, Christian educators to do the same with the

young people that they work with.

So that's what the name means.

We are a youth focus ministry.

Our primary target audience is junior high high school

college. Secondarily it's pastors and leaders we want to come alongside them and

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