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Nature PastCast, July 1942: Secret science in World War 2

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🗓️ 26 July 2019

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

This episode was first broadcast in July 2013.


This year, Nature celebrates its 150th birthday. To mark this anniversary we’re rebroadcasting episodes from our PastCast series, highlighting key moments in the history of science.


During the Second World War, scientists worked on secret projects such as the development of radar. Their efforts were hinted at in the pages of Nature but the details, of course, couldn't be published. In this episode, historian Jon Agar explains how war work gave physicists a new outlook and led to new branches of science. We also hear from the late John Westcott, whose wartime job was to design radar systems.


From the archive

Nature Volume 150 Issue 3794, 18 July 1942


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0:00.0

This is the Nature Pastcast, each month raiding Nature's archive and looking at key moments in science.

0:07.1

In this show, we travel back to the 1940s. Nature, Saturday, July 18th, 1942.

0:42.0

In 1942, it's one of the darkest periods of the Second World War for Britain.

0:48.5

The war with Germany is still ongoing, there's bombing, there's the blitz, great destruction.

0:56.0

My name's John Egar. I'm a historian of science at University College London,

1:02.1

and I'm fascinated by how science fitted in with the wider world in the 20th century.

1:07.9

Wars in general are very important for science because they call for new weapons,

1:12.0

they call for new defences, and scientists as experts are brought into that process. And in the 20th century, which was a century of global conflict, the scientists were

1:17.4

brought into that process like never before. And the Second World War, I think, is particularly

1:22.0

crucial because during the First World War, there were plenty of scientists were involved,

1:27.5

but many people felt that they weren't used effectively.

1:31.4

And there was a determination in the Second World War to change that.

1:34.8

And you can see that coming out in how nature covers the Second World War.

1:39.3

Page 65. Scientific Men in wartime.

1:43.5

From the outbreak of war in 1939, and indeed for a long time previously,

1:48.6

it was obvious that the knowledge possessed by scientific men and engineers

1:52.3

would be of decisive importance in the coming struggle.

1:55.7

It's fascinating reading nature in the Second World War.

1:59.5

One of the first things you notice when you see them on the shelves

2:01.7

is that the volumes for 1942, 1993,

2:05.3

are half the size of the pre-war and post-war volumes.

2:10.9

That's because people are doing war work.

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