The only thing we can be sure of about the future is that it will be absolutely fantastic.

Five, four, three, two, one. Hello and

welcome to Into the Impossible, a podcast about how we imagine and how what we imagine shapes what we do.

From the Arthur C. Clark, Center for Human Imagination at UC San Diego.

I'm Patrick Coleman, and today we're bringing you an interview between our associate director Brian Keating the astrophysicist and author of the recent book Losing the Nobel Prize

with one of the pre-eminent scientific minds of the 20th and 21st century, Freeman Dyson.

Before we get into the interview, I do want to just let you know about a program that we have going

at the Clark Center this year if you're in the San Diego area

and the program is called San Diego 2049. So this series of programs which we're

organizing with the School of Global Policy and Strategy. We'll use the

imagination and narrative tools of science fiction to stimulate complex thinking

about the future and the ways we can shape it through policy, technology, innovation, culture, and social change.

We're going to have a series of events here on campus throughout the year, including a lecture

by writer Werner Vinci on October 12th,

and a world-building workshop for UCSD graduate students

led by Anne Pendleton Julian.

And one of the exciting things about San Diego 2049

is that graduate students at UCSD can participate

in the program, develop their own future scenarios, and compete at the end of the year with their

projects.

And along the way, earn a certificate in speculative

design for policymaking.

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