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Nature Podcast

Nature Extra: Backchat March 2016

Nature Podcast

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Science, Technology, News

4.5893 Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2016

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Misused statistics, the latest gossip on Google’s Go-playing AI, and watching mathematicians win prizes.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Backchat. If the Nature podcast is a nice normal bell curve, then Backchat would catastrophically fail the normality test. This month, statistics, mathematics and intelligent algorithms. We'll be discussing misused P-values, getting the gossip on the latest success of Google's AI AlphaGo, and watching mathematicians win prizes, which is awkward.

0:22.3

I'm Kerry Smith, and I'm pleased to introduce my mathletes and stats superstars, Davidei.

0:28.1

Hello, I'm Davidei. I'm the Math Prize correspondent.

0:31.5

Lizzie Gibney also joins us.

0:33.1

Hello, I write about physical sciences and all different kinds of forms from here in London.

0:37.1

And special guest, Monia Baker, visiting the London office all the way from San Francisco.

0:41.3

Hello, I wrote about how scientists can make science more reliable.

0:45.3

Now, coming up this month, all of the glamorous topics, as we've hinted at already, starting with statistics,

0:51.3

specifically, P values, at their best rigorous evidence, at worst, wonky and

0:56.2

misleading and misinterpreted.

0:58.5

Monnier, as you mentioned, you're our kind of stats correspondent of late.

1:02.6

The problem here is that scientists are sometimes not using this kind of pillar of statistics

1:06.8

properly, right?

1:07.8

That's right.

1:08.3

They're trusting it way too much, and they think that it can say

1:13.6

whether or not their hypothesis is correct, which is not something that the P value can do. What the

1:19.6

P value can do is tell you how likely a certain set of values is to occur by chance, assuming that

1:26.6

there's no correlation between

1:29.1

various values and a variety of other assumptions are true.

1:32.6

Now, this month, it's become news because the American Statistical Association, which is a very

1:36.7

old and dignified body of concerned statisticians, have sort of weighed in on how people are

1:42.5

abusing the P value.

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