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This is CBS, I'm John Batcher, Gregory Copley, Editor and publisher of Defense and Foreign Affairs.

We turn to what we know from the meeting of the Gathering of Eagles in Vilnius, Lithuania

by NATO to discuss the future of the Ukraine War, the future of Europe in contest with the Russian

Federation, the future of NATO itself, which is an artifact from the Second War,

from the 20th century, remaking itself into not quite determined what the mission is because

the General Secretary is now traveling to Asia. There's talk of a NATO in Asia. What is NATO?

And what does that mean for the present conflict? Gregory, the disappointment of

the NATO meeting in Vilnius was evident from the remarks of the President of Ukraine.

They want to join NATO as quick as possible. They want to date when it can be made possible.

They want a pathway. The asterbich remarks afterwards from critics were that what NATO offered in

2023 was exactly what it was offered in Bucharest in 2008. Not yet, not yet, not yet,

said Germany in France at the time. And now in 2023, not yet, not yet, said Germany and the United

States. Your opinion of this NATO meeting? Did it advance the story at all, or did it leave us with

the same cloud of diplomacy we had beforehand? Well, it left us with the same structural situation,

but it heightened the emotions of all of the participants. Fortunately, the French government and

the German government, for that matter, did try to hold back if you like the emotions of Ukraine

and the pro-Ukraine crowd. Because let's face it, Ukraine has nothing to offer. NATO in the collective

defense of Europe. Ukraine, like Turkey, loves NATO for what NATO can give to them, not for what they

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