#NATO: More than one dissenter on Ukraine. Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute
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🗓️ 12 July 2024
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#NATO: More than one dissenter on Ukraine. Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute
https://quincyinst.org/research/right-sizing-the-russian-threat-to-europe/
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| 0:48.0 | Through the South Caucasus Anatole leaving of the Quincy Institute for Responsible State Craft. Anatole, since you've been traveling, NATO's been meeting in Washington, |
| 0:52.0 | and within these last hours NATO announces that it is |
| 0:57.6 | irreversible, irreversible that Ukraine find a path to joining NATO, irreversible. Doesn't name a time, doesn't name |
| 1:08.1 | criteria, just says that the path is irreversible. Sometimes it also says there is an irreversible bridge between |
| 1:15.9 | NATO and Ukraine. My conversation with you these last years tells me that that is a warning sign that in the |
| 1:26.6 | direction of peace but in the direction of more conflict. What is the measure of Keith joining NATO? Why the hesitation at the same time the adamant |
| 1:38.2 | declaration by NATO? How does it gain from this? Good evening to you. Hello John. Well first of all as one William Shakespeare said the maiden |
| 1:51.2 | does protest too much, me thinks, because perhaps unfortunately, but there are in |
| 2:00.3 | NATO members such things as elections and no group of governments can guarantee any |
| 2:10.9 | process of this kind it only takes one veto. |
| 2:15.0 | NATO membership for Ukraine you could say is only irreversible until November when if as now seems quite likely Donald Trump |
| 2:28.7 | becomes president it is very likely to go into reverse. |
| 2:34.0 | If in three years the pen becomes president of France, |
| 2:38.0 | it is very likely that you will have a French government opposed to this. |
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