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🗓️ 9 October 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | In the U.S., national security news can feel far away from daily life. |
| 0:05.0 | Distant wars, murky conflicts, diplomacy behind closed doors on our new show, Sources and Methods. |
| 0:11.5 | NPR reporters on the ground bring you stories of real people, helping you understand why distant events matter here at home. |
| 0:19.1 | Listen to sources and methods on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:24.0 | This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. |
| 0:27.4 | To put military troops in American cities is a threat to our democracy. |
| 0:33.7 | If you think about the speech that the president gave to the hundreds of generals that were gathered a week or so ago to talk about training our troops in the cities of America, we're not at war with ourselves here. |
| 0:47.8 | There is not an insurrection or a rebellion, not only in Portland or Chicago or other places. |
| 0:53.1 | Look, there are challenges. |
| 0:55.4 | There's lawful demonstrations. Local law enforcement is handling the situation. And I think this is an overreaction |
| 1:01.9 | to the situation. And it's just not true. Fact should matter. That was Oregon Governor Tina Kotech on NPR, |
| 1:13.8 | reacting to President Donald Trump's order to deploy National Guard troops into several U.S. cities. Her words capture the anxiety and disbelief, |
| 1:20.5 | reverberating through many city halls and state houses and even inside the Pentagon. |
| 1:26.2 | In Portland, a federal judge has temporarily blocked the guards' arrival. |
| 1:30.4 | In Chicago, city and state leaders are suing to stop similar deployments. But that resistance |
| 1:36.0 | is falling largely along partisan lines. While Democratic governors oppose the deployments, |
| 1:42.2 | some Republican governors are welcoming them. Louisiana governor, |
| 1:46.3 | Jeff Laundrie, requested up to 1,000 troops for New Orleans in Shreveport in Baton Rouge, |
| 1:52.5 | citing high crime rates. And at least six Republican-led states, including West Virginia, |
| 1:57.9 | South Carolina, and Ohio, have sent hundreds of guard troops to Washington, D.C. |
| 2:02.8 | at Trump's request. |
| 2:04.6 | But the deployment orders are just one part of a larger shift happening inside of the military itself. |
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