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Fresh Air

Jane Goodall

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🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Today we’re remembering renowned primatologist Jane Goodall, known for her work researching the behavior of chimpanzees and protecting their habitats. She died last week at the age of 91. "Every time somebody discovers an animal doing something that we used to think was unique to us, there is this scientific uproar, because we [humans] have to keep our uniqueness. And of course the chimps have challenged this belief again and again and again," Goodall told Terry Gross in 1999. 

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This is fresh air. Jane Goodall, the internationally renowned conservationist and researcher

0:30.1

of chimpanzees in their natural habitat, died last week. She was 91. Goodall had no scientific

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training when she made her way to East Africa at age 23. She was 91. Goodall had no scientific training when she made her way to East Africa

0:39.5

at age 23. She went to work as a secretary for paleontologist Louis Leakey, who'd been hoping to find

0:46.4

someone to study a group of chimpanzees on Lake Tanganyika. Goodall took the challenge,

0:52.0

and groundbreaking observations followed about the chimps' ability to make and use tools, their diet, their mating patterns, and their social interactions.

1:01.9

Goodall shared her work in many books, articles, and documentaries, with herself as a character in the stories.

1:08.3

The University of Cambridge recognized her contributions by accepting her into

1:12.4

its doctoral program, which she completed in 1965. As her career developed, she saw the need for

1:19.4

protecting chimps habitat and established the Jane Goodall Institute to advance her conservation work.

1:26.2

She wrote 32 books, 15 for children, and was recognized with a host of awards,

1:32.1

receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom and being named a Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire.

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Today we'll listen to parts of two interviews Terry Gross recorded with Goodall. The first was in 1993, when Goodall had co-authored

1:46.6

a book with Dale Peterson about the relationship between chimps and humans. Jane Goodall told Terry

1:53.1

that when she first began studying the chimps, she was discouraged from projecting human qualities

1:58.4

on the animals, but she disregarded that advice.

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