The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everybody welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of

God and the good of others.

Every week, I bring you a conversation with a Christ follower

who's pursuing world-class mastery of their craft.

We talk about their path to mastery, their daily

habits and routines and how the Gospel of Jesus Christ influences the work they do in

the world. Today's guest was so much fun having on the show. His name is

Nate Knapper. He's a federal law enforcement officer focused on human trafficking and

counterterrorism.

He's also the founder and CEO of the Joseph Project,

which connects victims of human trafficking

to pro bono legal services.

Nate and I side down, this guy's got a crazy impressive resume.

We talked a little bit about that.

He was a White House intern, a Pepperdine law grad assistant attorney general to the state of

Michigan so we talked about his background we talked about our shared experiences as

White House interns and the time that I bold face lied to President George

W Bush's face. That was a fun one. Glad I got that one off my chest. We also talked

about the biblical narrative of Joseph

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