The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everybody welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of

God and the good of others.

Every week I host a conversation with the Christian who's pursuing world-class

mastery of their craft. We talk about their path to mastery, their daily habits, and how the Gospel of Jesus

Christ influences their work. Today's guest is Justin Gibney. He's an attorney and co-founder of the And campaign, this coalition of urban Christians who are engaging politics with compassion and the conviction of the gospel. He's an exceptional

communicator and leader and I thoroughly enjoyed getting a talk down on this

episode of the show.

Justin and I sat down.

We talked about why Christians should embrace,

rather than lament, being politically homeless.

I mentioned this a couple of times on the

podcast I've felt politically homeless for a while now and have felt like that's a bad

thing. Just to convince me this is a very good thing and why more of us should

feel this way. We talked about what Steve jobs

can teach us about strategy and scaling the adoption of ideas, and we talked about how Christians

can speak out less and reflect more on the important issues of our day.

I think you guys are really going to love this short episode with my new friend Justin Gibbonne.

Hey Justin, it's an honor to have you here.

Thanks for joining me.

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