Hello there, I'm Chuck Todd and this is the Chuck Todd cab.

So we are done.

No more primaries this year.

All of candidates are set.

Ads are in the pipeline.

We now officially can be focused on the development of interim elections, which means

time to talk about some polling.

My guest today is Nate Cohn.

He is the chief political analyst for the New York Times, essentially in charge of their

polling and data and analytics, if you will.

And he wrote a pretty provocative piece this week that many of us have been thinking about,

which is, hey, you know, maybe these polls are accurate or maybe there's a little happy

talk for Democrats in here.

Be careful.

And more importantly, Nate, you brought a few receipts because what you showed was here

we go again, our Democrats doing well in Florida, North Carolina or Ohio, or is the polling

off by the same number.

It's been off the last three cycles.

So let's begin there.

Why did you why did you identify this potential potential problem?

Well, I would almost take us back to where we were four, two years ago at this time in

the presidential race, and I noticed something odd early in the presidential campaign, which

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