Hello, everyone and welcome to another episode of Trash Future, as you can probably tell,

because you're hearing my voice and not Riley's voice.

I don't say, Riley, you sound very different.

You know, people have told me in the past that they can't tell me and Riley apart.

And I'm like, I don't expect people to be able to tell the difference between an American and a Canadian accent.

You have such a different affect is the thing. I know, I know.

And people, they've told me that before.

They're like, oh, I can't keep the North American guys apart.

And it's like, surely, surely you can just listen a little more closely there.

One of them is sort of like, um, gormond.

And one of them sounds like very depressed all the time.

Hey.

Hey. So, hey.

So, thanks.

Set me off on a really, really good point in your house.

I didn't mean to completely like destroy your self-esteem like a minute into the recording.

So we're getting to do an episode about something we really enjoy.

And this week, we are speaking to my friend Jane Peck about her new novel, her first novel, The Verifiers.

Jane and I went to graduate school together.

And I read initial drafts of this book almost, well, more than seven years ago.

And now it's gotten published and super excited for that.

So we brought on Jane to talk about her novel, both because it meets our tech angle

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