I'm a podcaster and journalist Emma Gonna Wardner, although you can call me Emma Guns.

And in these podcast conversations, I want to get to the bottom of those topics that can feel confusing and bamboozling and sharing some incredible and very helpful insights about how to navigate this thing called life, love and getting older and wiser is actress podcaster and entrepreneur Natalie Anderson.

And it's so easy for us as women to be called unreasonable.

It's so easy for us to be labeled as difficult by just simply saying what we want.

I'm a much softer person and actually I think I thrive better when I am more honest and I am kind of you know do need to take a step back

That's when I I've now felt like I've found a way to look after my well-being

Because I'm stepping away from that harsh mentality. I feel like I've lost a whole decade at least of my life.

This is something I always say to my friends. I'm like, I am going to be that woman going,

swearing and carrying on going, no, I don't think so. F off.

It's so easy to just be labeled. And without being awful awful women do it to women.

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