The defining moment of my career was not when I won the Olympics.

We will never be defined by a gold medal.

There's so much strength in what you just said.

I like to live my life without fear. The one fear that I have is the fear of what if?

You haven't talked about this before, I know. Everybody's gonna fall in their face.

It's about how do you pick yourself up and how do you keep going.

Your best or the best. What was your primary Dr. Michael Jervay,

by trade in training a high performance psychologist. Take a moment to consider.

What are the moments that have influenced your life.

What parts of you did you bring forward? What parts of you did you hold back?

How did these experiences shape the contours of your life?

These questions lie at the heart of our conversation today with Nastia Lucan,

a gold medal gymnast whose name is etched in the history for winning the all-around title at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

Beyond for monumental achievements, including tying the record for the most gymnastics medals won by an American in a single Olympic Games.

Nastia's journey is one of relentless pursuit, resilience, and the courage to redefine success. In this episode,

Nastia reveals the significant moments of her career from a pivotal

conversation with Kobe Bryant that reshaped her self-perception

to the standing ovation that followed what she considers to be her worst performance ever.

Imagine that. Nastia's lived experience shows us all how to find meaning and success beyond external achievements and she continues to walk her talk. In this conversation we dive deep

into the dynamics of perfection and control, vulnerability, and the power of being

present.

Nastia's insights offer a practical guide

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