I love your quip at the start of Taipei 101. You're like, be bold, start cold. Is that the standard for you?

Did I actually, did I say that at the bottom of Type 1 101? I think so. Yeah, that's what... Like on the broadcast? Yeah. Yeah. That's so funny. I say that all the time because I mean, that's like every time I leave the car, like start hiking in the crag, you're like, be bold, start cold. I'm the opposite. I'm such a ween. I'm like, I'll just stop five minutes in and change, but it's kind of hard to do when you're stilling a skyscraper.

And that's why you don't... like be bold start cold. I'm the opposite. I'm such a weaning. I'm like, I'll just stop five minutes in and change, but it's kind of hard to do when you're

still in a skyscraper.

And that's why you don't set as many speed records. Yeah, it's true. So is the choice often, the black technical pants and the red tea? Yeah. t-shirt when you're slightly chilly is I mean that's boldness you just go for it honestly at the

bottom of type of 101 I was quite conflicted I'm like do I wear my When you're slightly chilly is, I mean, that's boldness. You just go for it. Honestly, at the bottom

of type of 101, I was quite conflicted. I'm like, do I wear my fleece? Do I wear a layer on top? Even though I'm in the sun and it is kind of warm, but it's windy. It's going to be cold, but you're going 1,700 feet up this building. You're like, I don't know. So you went with what you knew. They've never let me down before. The North Face has you covered. Discover gear

designed to take you to new heights at the... building you're like, I don't know. So you went with what you knew? They've never let me down before.

The North Face has you covered. Discover gear designed to take you to new heights at the northface.com. Hey, Fitz here. Today's show, the fighter, originally aired back in 2023. Nassim,

Eschke, is an Iranian climber and activist now living in exile after she used climbing as a vehicle for speaking out against Iran's repressive regime.

This winter, massacres of protesters continued with 3,100 citizens killed by their own government.

Some estimate that that number is much, much higher, more like 30,000.

Now we're in the midst of a conflict. And while the world has been

in an uproar, and rightfully so, Iranian voices have been missing from those conversations.

When we reached the scene this week, she shared some perspective with us. Here's what she said.

Iranians are not naive. People inside Iran understand geopolitics. They don't think foreign powers are benevolent,

and they don't need outsiders lecturing them about good actors and bad actors. We are watching a

violent theocracy that has massacred our people for decades finally get hit, and many Iranians

inside Iran feel a painful kind of relief not because war is good not

because anyone is good but because when you've lived with the devil on your neck for

45 years any crack in the machinery feels like air please listen to Iranians

amplify their voices so here we are today resharing this incredible story of a climber who realized

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