This is CBS. I'm The World. I'm John Batchel. Behind the Black, Bob Zimmerman joins. This is the

fundraising moment for the holiday season at the end of the year for Behind the Black. Your donation

subscriptions are especially welcome. Bob at this holiday time is in a generous spirit.

He's got signed autographed copies of Genesis 8, paperback is for $200 and the hardback for $250.

This is the story of the success of 1968, thanks to one very daring Apollo mission, Apollo 8, first time man had ever left

the orbit of the earth and traveled to another planet, the moon. The striking thing you

will learn in Bob's recitation of these events, and he interviewed many of the principles, is that

NASA itself, in a moon race with Russia after a terrible year of war and threat and riot and ruin and doubt, NASA itself said 50-50 chance of succeeding.

The astronauts knew it, and they took off.

Now, we come to 2024 and Bob's story of NASA and Risk took off. Now, we come to 2024,

and Bob's story of NASA and Risk.

Bob, a very good evening to you, 50-50 in 1968.

We now have a new mission, man mission, by NASA.

Some aspect of the moon is involved.

What is it and what is the risk to your measure?

Good evening to you.

Good evening, John. What we have is a situation at NASA, which is very similar to the situation at NASA shortly when the Challenger and Columbia accidents happen. NASA, for political

reasons, is preparing to fly astronauts

around the moon in a very, very risky manner without doing proper due diligence beforehand.

And it is doing so for political reasons, for budget reasons, for lobbying reasons, and

not for engineering reasons. And this is the same thing that happened when Columbia and Challenger would destroy

with NASA didn't do the due diligence engineering-wise because it was playing politics.

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