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Welcome back to the Mark Devine show. Today's guest is someone whose journey really embodies

what it means to win the inner battle before the

Otter One.

I'm joined by my friend Anil Menon.

He's a physician, elite endurance athlete, he's a former SpaceX flight surgeon, and now a NASA

astronaut.

What makes Anil's story remarkable isn't just that he made it to space, it's how he got

there.

After coming close once and missing it, he had to

confront his own doubt, his age, and the belief that his window had closed. Instead of quitting,

and Neil chose to train differently, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually, and he came back

stronger. Today we're going to talk about that journey, which included seal fit. His setbacks,

the mindset shifts, and the pressures of of SpaceX and what it really takes to prepare for spaceflight and

how learning to win in your mind can reopen doors that you thought were shut

this is going to be a powerful conversation about resilience service and

choosing growth even when it's extremely uncomfortable. Let's get into it.

Anil, thanks for joining us today. It looks like you're floating in space already. I bet you're

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