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Welcome to Theocast, encouraging weary pilgrims to rest in Christ.

Conversations about the Christian life from a reformed and pastoral perspective.

Your host today are Justin Purdue, pastor of Covenant Baptist Church in Asheville, North Carolina.

And I'm John Moffitt, pastor of Grace Reform Church in Springhill, Tennessee.

And Justin, as always, my friend, it's Wednesday morning, one of our favorite mornings to get together.

And it's been a good morning already. We've had the opportunity to just talk about life and ministry in general. And today's

subject was one coming out of Justin and I always, I don't know, it just kind of seems to happen.

We talk about what we've been preaching, what's on our minds, what's going on in our lives,

whatever. Great books we've read. And today's subject really kind of came out of

some of you've been reading your kids. Yeah. Well, I mean, somewhat to some things that you were

talking about considering in your sermon on Sunday. You mentioned that and then I mentioned this other

thing. And I said, oh, and by the way, like this other thing struck me. And so it's kind of cool.

It's a little bit of your

thing. And then what happened with me last night reading my kids, mashup, it has produced today's

episode. So yeah, before that, before I do that, yeah, let's pump the brakes. Let's talk with

some other books. Yeah, well, by this time, the announcement has come out that we have a new logo

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