Narcissists: Are We Surrounded?

Science Vs

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Science, Education, Health & Fitness

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🗓️ 19 December 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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The internet tells us that narcissists are everywhere — and that the problem is only getting worse. It’s like narcissism is oozing out of our celebrities, politicians, partners, parents, maybe even ourselves?? So today, we’re taking a long look in the mirror to find out: are we all a bunch of narcissists? And what should we do if we think someone in our life is a narcissist? We find out by talking to a real narcissist, Lee Hammock of the social media platform “The Self Aware Narcissist” as well as psychologists Prof. W. Keith Campbell, Prof. Kali Trzesniewski, and Dr. Craig Malkin. We want to hear your ideas for new episodes of Science Vs! Tell us via: Instagram at science_vs X at @sciencevs Bluesky at sciencevs Email at [email protected] Voicemail at +1(774) 481-1238‬ This episode does mention depression. Here are some crisis hotlines: United States: US National Suicide Prevention Lifeline Dial 988 (Online chat available); US Crisis Text Line Text “HOME” to 741741 Australia: Lifeline 13 11 14 (Online chat available) Canada: Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention (See link for phone numbers listed by province) United Kingdom: Samaritans 116 123 (UK and ROI) Full list of international hotlines here Find our transcript here: https://bit.ly/ScienceVsNarcissism In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Lee’s Ratatouille Moment (07:06) The Narcissism Test (15:53) Are We In a Narcissism Epidemic? (25:41) It Kind of Sucks to be a Narcissist (31:55) Narcissists in Therapy (35:11) How to Deal With a Narcissist in Your Life This episode was produced by Rose Rimler, with help from Wendy Zukerman, Michelle Dang, Meryl Horn, and Ekedi Fausther-Keeys. We’re edited by Blythe Terrell. Mix and sound design by Sam Bair. Fact checking by Erica Akiko Howard. Music written by Peter Leonard, Emma Munger, So Wylie, Bumi Hidaka, and Bobby Lord.Thanks to all the researchers we spoke to for this episode, including Dr. Igor Weinberg, Dr. April Ilkmen, Dr. Jennifer Gerlach, Dr. Betsy Edershile, Prof. Brad Bushman, Prof. Brent Donnellan, Prof. Chris Barry, Dr. Glenn Geher, and Winkie Ma. Special thanks to Rachel Humphries for editing help. And big thanks to everyone who helped us this season! Jack Weinstein, Hunter, Chris Suter, Oscar, Elise, Dylan, the Zukerman family and Joseph Lavelle Willson. Science Vs is a Spotify Studios Original. Listen for free on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us and tap the bell for episode notifications. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman and you're listening to Science Verses. Today is our last episode before we go on a little break to work on new episodes, which means that if you have an idea for us, something you want us to versus, we would absolutely love to hear it. There's an email, a phone number if you're in the US, there's social media accounts, it's all in the show
0:21.3	notes. So just have a look at the show notes, get in touch with us and tell us your great
0:26.0	sides versus idea. We always love hearing from you. Okay, but now it's time to start the show.
0:35.7	This is the show that pits facts against inflated egos.
0:45.6	Today we are talking about narcissism.
0:49.2	So of course, I've invited senior producer, Rose Rimlerla to tell me all about it.
0:55.1	Hey.
0:55.5	Well, because you did the research.
0:58.6	Fair enough.
0:59.9	I have been doing the research.
1:02.1	And, you know, what I quickly realized diving into all this is that on the internet,
1:06.5	there's all these caricatures of what a narcissist is.
1:09.8	But the reality is a lot more complicated and actually
1:13.0	a lot more interesting. So to start, I want you to meet someone. This person is an actual narcissist.
1:20.6	He's a social media influencer. That too-sha, that jump sounds very appropriate. Could you start by introducing yourself to our audience?
1:29.8	Hey, everybody.
1:30.5	My name is Lee Hammack.
1:31.4	I'm a clinically diagnosed narcissist.
1:34.2	One of my monikers has become like the self-aware narcissist.
1:37.3	And Lee wasn't always self-aware about this, but something happened about eight years ago that changed his whole world.
1:43.8	Mm-hmm. So Lee is a dad. And on. Something happened about eight years ago that changed his whole world.
1:52.1	So Lee is a dad, and on this particular day, he was home alone with his six-month-old son.
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