People think democracies die with a sudden shock, and you see black shirts or brown shirts

who stepping in the streets. That's not how democracies die. Democracy's die through a thousand cuts.

In this episode, I sit down with Naomi Wolf, CEO of Daily Cloud, an author of the new book,

Facing the Beast, Courage, Faith, and Resistance in a New Dark Age.

Our Justice Department has been turned against citizens. People are languishing in prison without

due process. That's what happens in an advanced tyranny. What really happened to America

and across Western democracies over these last few years? I saw that what had unfolded around the

world in 2020-2021 didn't look like history at any other time. It was so coordinated and so

in lockstep. So many heads of states in the exact same things and multiple languages at the exact

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Naomi Wolf, so good to have you back on American Thought Leaders.

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