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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Nancy Mace’s main character energy

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

Government, Politics, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) has a way of being in the middle of things, whether it’s standing up to Trump after Jan. 6 when many in her party kept quiet, helping overthrow House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, or warning Republicans about how they were wrong when it comes to the politics of abortion. But some of that drama is catching up with Mace back home in South Carolina, which on Saturday will be the center of the political world as voters head to the polls in the state’s presidential primary. Mace is now back in Trump’s corner and facing a primary which features not one but two candidates at least partly motivated by revenge: a candidate backed by McCarthy and Mace’s own former chief of staff. On this episode of Deep Dive, host and Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza talks to Rep. Mace about her on-again, off-again history with Trump; the revenge plots playing out in her primary; her prediction about Trump’s margin of victory on Saturday; and the backstory to that time she wore a giant scarlet “A” on the House floor.

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Nancy Mace has a way of being in the middle of things.

0:08.0

Whether it's standing up to Trump after January 6th when many in her party kept quiet or helping overthrow House Speaker

0:16.0

Kevin McCarthy or warning Republicans about how they were wrong when it comes to the

0:21.2

politics of abortion. I think that sometimes our side gets it

0:25.4

wrong, we don't show compassion to women, in fact we attack women. But some of that

0:29.6

drama is catching up with Mace back home in South Carolina, which on Saturday will be

0:35.2

the center of the political world as voters head to the polls in the state's

0:38.5

presidential primary. Mace is now back in Trump's corner and even mentioned occasionally as a possible

0:44.7

running mate. She endorsed Trump over her two home state Republican

0:48.7

candidates, Tim Scott and Nicki Haley. She was a good governor. South kind of liked her as governor but South and as her Trump endorsement will pay dividends this spring in her own primary, which features not

1:05.2

one but two candidates at least partly motivated by revenge, a candidate backed by McCarthy, and Mace's own former chief of staff.

1:15.0

I spoke to Mace on Thursday and we dug into the details of her on-again-off-again history with Trump,

1:21.0

what she thinks of the Vip Talk, impeachment, the revenge plots playing out in her primary,

1:26.5

her prediction about Trump's margin of victory on Saturday, and the backstory to that time she wore a giant scarlet A on the house floor.

1:35.4

It was my sort of anthem to be sort of like, well, F you.

1:41.2

I'm Ryan Liza, this is playbook deep dive.

1:44.0

I don't ask this question as a criticism, but you have a way of being at the center of things.

1:53.4

I don't mean to.

1:54.4

Honestly, I don't mean to.

1:56.0

Last year at the congressional dinner,

1:57.6

you gave a very funny speech.

1:58.8

I remember we were talking after that

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