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Let's turn our attention now to the State of the Union message. I know that a lot of

people are waiting for this and Chris Ruppke is among them. He is the chief

financial economist for M U F G Union Bank and he joins us here in our studio

Chris Ruppke, great to have you here.

Hey great to be here. So what kind of economy is the president going to be, what kind of economy do we have

while the president speaks?

I don't know.

It was interesting.

Remember during the campaign, 5% unemployment was phony

uh... he wouldn't be getting people into the stadiums if unemployment was really

5% but now uh... the president's growing about how well the economy is doing with unemployment rate at 4.1%.

I know what you're saying, but what are you saying?

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