If a concept or a person or a situation makes my stomach clench, try not to do it.

Because to intellectualize things, I can like talk my way into anything.

I can talk my way into dating the worst person in the world, taking a shitty job.

You can intellectualize anything into making sense, like rationally.

But your body is trying to tell you, like,

get the fuck out of here.

Let it go. Let it go back Okay, hi. We're back with part two of my conversation with my friend, my hairstylist, Brian Fassetti.

She's one of my favorite people to talk to.

So when I went over to her studio to record, I was not surprised that we recorded for over three hours.

And therefore, I'm splitting this into multiple parts.

This is part two of that conversation. If you haven't listened to part one, go back and listen to that for some context. Or you can start here and make your way through them in any order that you'd like, but there might

be some callbacks and you might want to listen in order. But if you're here after listening to

last weeks, you know already how special Ryan is. She is incredibly wise and this mythical figure who has such sage insight around so many topics,

which is why we were able to talk for so long and why I'm breaking it into multiple

episodes because each one was full and rich with so many

different topics. We really cover a lot of ground. So last week you heard about us talking

about everything from power dynamics within the hair world and her thoughts on finding love and becoming what she calls

a baby elder woman. And this time we cover hair trends. We get into talking about the big

hair of the 80s and then how we are where we are now in terms of what's stylish hair-wise.

And we get into her frequently asked questions about hair trends and hair health and hair growth

and her tips around growing hair.

During this conversation, we talk about eating disorder recovery and how it can linger

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