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🗓️ 19 March 2023
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0:00.0 | I'm Ezra Klein. This is the Ezra Con Show. |
0:07.0 | So this is a bit of something different, a bit of an experiment. I got two parts to my |
0:14.7 | work here at the times. I do the podcast and I do my columns. And the podcast is really |
0:19.2 | where I explore what other people think, the columns is where I work out what I think. |
0:24.6 | But sometimes I want to cross the streams a little bit more than I do because there's |
0:28.9 | a tendency for people to think that whatever podcast I did last on the topic is what |
0:33.9 | my actual view is. We're going to be covering AI a lot. You might have seen GPT-4 just |
0:39.5 | came out. That's a big deal. What it can do is a really big deal. We're going to have |
0:43.4 | a big conversation around that on Tuesday. But I just wrote a column trying to work through |
0:49.2 | my own thinking on AI and why it's come to dominate so much my thinking. And I thought |
0:54.4 | about read it here to give people a bit of context for the coverage we're doing and |
0:59.9 | where I'm coming from as I do it. |
1:01.4 | So in 2018, Sundar Prasad, the chief executive of Google, and I would say he's not one of |
1:12.6 | the tech executives, no one for constant overstatement. He said and I quote, AI is probably |
1:19.2 | the most important thing humanity has ever worked on. I think of it as something more |
1:24.0 | profound than electricity or fire to hell of a quote. And I was back in 2018 when these |
1:30.8 | systems were a lot weaker than they are now. Try to live. I've been trying to live for |
1:37.0 | a few minutes in the possibility that what he's saying is true. People talk about human |
1:44.2 | cognitive biases all the time, but there's no more profound human bias than the expectation |
1:49.4 | that tomorrow is going to be like today. It's so powerful because it is almost always |
1:53.6 | correct. Tomorrow probably will be like today and next year probably will be like this |
1:57.8 | year. But try to cast your gaze 10 or 20 years out. One thing that's been unnerving me, |
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