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The Ezra Klein Show

Why Silicon Valley Bank Collapsed — And What Comes Next

The Ezra Klein Show

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Government, News

4.611K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Last Friday, in the largest bank failure since 2008, Silicon Valley Bank failed. Banks fail all the time. But unless it’s a big or highly-connected bank, most of us don’t pay much attention. That’s because at the average bank, about half of all accounts are F.D.I.C.-insured. That means, if a typical bank fails, the F.D.I.C. will step in and pay every depositor back up to $250,000. But Silicon Valley Bank was not a typical bank. It seems that only around a single digit percentage of accounts were under $250,000. And the people who banked at Silicon Valley Bank are among the most powerful in the world. Nearly half of venture finance-backed tech and life-science companies had money in there. When these people start shouting, those in power listen. And so the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department and the F.D.I.C. stepped in forcefully. They retroactively insured all the accounts, and created an emergency system to backstop other struggling banks, too. But that doesn’t mean this is over. Bank runs are narrative phenomena. Rising interest rates are revealing a financial system that had only planned for low interest rates — in perpetuity. And if, in practice, we’re going to make whole any depositor at any bank no matter how much money is in the account, shouldn’t we make that into actual policy, and charge banks for the privilege of full social insurance? Noah Smith is an economist, a former columnist at Bloomberg, and the author of the fantastic Substack Noahpinion, and he’s done some of the clearest writing and coverage of this mess. We talk about the above, as well as what the crypto boosters — many of whom were begging for a bailout here — got wrong about trust and finance, the problem the Fed now faces raising rates to fight inflation, whether this was a “bailout,” how a bank can be “narratively important” no matter its size, and much more. Mentioned: “How the Fed is ‘Shaking the Entire System’” by The Ezra Klein Show “Why the US Backstop After SVB’s Failure Is a Bailout” by Joe Weisenthal Noahpinion Book Recommendations: Chip War by Chris Miller How Asia Works by Joe Studwell The Invisible Bridge by Rick Perlstein Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Emefa Agawu, Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld, Rogé Karma and Kristin Lin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Mixing by Sonia Herrero and Efim Shapiro. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Pat McCusker and Kristina Samulewski.

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0:00.0

I'm as reclined, this is the Ezra Kun Show.

0:24.0

So I'm not telling you anything you don't know here.

0:25.6

On Friday, Silicon Valley Bank failed.

0:28.2

The bank failure is not necessarily the biggest deal in the world.

0:31.5

You know that 18 banks failed in 2014?

0:33.9

Honestly, I didn't until I looked it up.

0:36.1

Or that 8 failed in 2017.

0:39.1

But most of those banks were pretty small.

0:41.4

Bank failures matter when the banks are really big or they're really connected to other

0:45.0

parts of the financial system.

0:47.5

So what was Silicon Valley Bank?

0:50.2

It's weird.

0:51.2

It was in the middle.

0:52.2

It was about $200 billion in assets.

0:53.2

It was a 16th biggest bank in the country.

0:56.0

I'd say it was not the kind of bank on its own that we would usually worry about.

1:01.7

But it was a weird bank it turned out.

1:03.5

I mean, it was a bank of Silicon Valley for one thing.

1:05.6

And so it was absolutely central to the startup ecosystem out here.

1:09.4

Nearly half of venture finance bank companies had money in there.

1:12.9

Nearly half.

1:13.9

And some of them had a lot of money just sitting there.

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