Hello, I'm Esther Perel, I'm a psychotherapist and host of the podcast Where Should We Begin.

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people from all walks of life grappling with the challenges and choices in their relationships.

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welcome to switch on pop. I'm musicologist Nate Sloan. I'm a songwriter Charlie Harding and

joining me in the studio is Gina Delvack producer of the hit podcast call your girlfriend.

Hey Gina. Hey Charlie. Hey Nate. Good to be here. So good to have you back, Gina.

And this is going to be a fun show because in the first half we're going to listen to

one of the hottest new tracks, Troy Savon's My My My.

Bye bye bye. So fun. My my my. And in the second half, I sit down for a conversation with

Darryl Bullock, the author of David Bowie made me gay to listen to a playlist of LGBT

pop music through the whole century. And then don't go anywhere because after that we'll be back

on with Gina to talk about songs that we love to hate. Now usually we discuss songs that we love

or once in a while songs that we hate, but this is new terrain songs that we love to hate.

It's made fun. Don't go anywhere. But our first order of business, My My My. I really like

this song. What do y'all think? This song does what I think is an important feature of any future

banger, which is that it teaches you how to sing along by halfway through. So I hadn't heard it when

you guys sent this through to me yet because I've been listening to a lot of public radio and not

very much of my usual hit music presets. I was like, oh, this is all the major qualities of a

future dance floor jam. My My My. That's all I said. My My My. So maybe around the second or third

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