So your child now is not aware that you're trans?

No.

Do you have plans on ever telling them?

That's, no.

As of right now, we don't have any plans on telling her.

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Today we are speaking to a trans man who is a husband, a father, a worker, and nobody in his life knows that he is trans. So he

lives the stealth lifestyle as a trans person, and we're going to learn all about that. So we've got

the guest on, and thank you so much for being on today. Thank you for having me. I appreciate

you responding to my email.

Yeah, of course. And we had a conversation a while ago. It was with a trans woman who kind of

explain this stealth lifestyle to us. And that was one of the first times that we heard about

a trans person just choosing to kind of make sure that nobody knows that they have transitioned.

So we are interested to dive into this topic and kind of understand how you live your life.

But I think to get started, can you just tell us about, I guess, just the origin of wanting to transition and the steps that you took to get there.

Yeah. So going way back, which I know this is going to be mind blowing to a lot of people, but when I, it started when I was four, right?

But my parents, very good parents didn't let me

didn't let the doctors or anything give into it they didn't give into it so fast forward to probably

i was 18 and um i just woke up one day right and I it really just I woke up somehow did some research

online and then reached out to a doctor that's that's basically how I first started the transition

so was that the deal with your parents they were kind of supportive but That's basically how I first started the transition.

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