So you can hear him screaming in the background and clearly in shock of what he just did and wasn't thinking right and just, you know, oh god, oh god, my life, I killed my life.

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So, you know, I think obviously we speak with a wide range of guests on the show with all types of stories, backgrounds, experiences.

Though every once in a while, we kind of have the opportunity to speak with someone who has experience such, I would say an unimaginable or kind of heartbreaking tragedy or experience that would truly top kind of a list of experiences that experiences that we as humans would really hope to never have to go through.

And these people are brave enough to come on the show. They speak to us. They relive these moments and experiences so that we can get an understanding of, you know, how someone is able to

to deal with such experiences as well as grow, cope, learn and kind of just continue to, you know, live their lives despite such unfortunate circumstances.

So these are, you know, really powerful perspectives to hear, I think, and, you know, rare ones.

So we've got our guests on the line today and we're going to be speaking with him about his experience as a child where he actually witnessed his own father kill his mother in front of him.

So we've got the guests on the line. Just want to take a second to, you know, thank you so much for being on the show and your willingness to share all of this with us.

Thank you for having me.

Yeah, of course. So, you know, we understand the, you know, main moment that we're about to discuss here today between your mother and your father.

But before that, can you just briefly talk about the relationship between them?

You know, was it a violent household? Did they argue frequently?

Had you seen abuse take place or was that not the case at all?

It wasn't, it was more verbal physically. It wasn't really a lot of physicals, more verbal abuse.

I was very young when this was going on.

So I don't know if I didn't fully understand what's happening or I blocked a lot of it out, probably a little bit of both.

But I can give an example of something that I do remember.

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