My Conversations With Charlie Kirk
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Codie Sanchez
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🗓️ 12 September 2025
⏱️ 7 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Yesterday, a guy I would call a friend, Charlie Kirk, was murdered. |
| 0:05.1 | I wasn't sure I was going to do anything about it. |
| 0:09.0 | I was going to post anything publicly about it because I can't even imagine what his family |
| 0:14.3 | is going through and what his really close friends are going through. |
| 0:18.7 | You see, a few years ago now, Charlie Kirk and I talked about |
| 0:22.5 | potentially doing something on college campuses together. He believed, like I do, that education |
| 0:28.9 | is maybe the most important thing that we do. Charlie and I didn't agree on everything. And I |
| 0:35.3 | don't think that's something we should strive for in humans, actually. |
| 0:39.3 | I think it's a really good thing for you to disagree sometimes intensely with other people. |
| 0:44.8 | But we were talking about, or really, I was trying to convince Charlie, that we should talk about |
| 0:49.1 | business and economics and making money on college campuses because it felt like kids had no hope there anymore. |
| 0:57.2 | Like they thought that the generations before them |
| 1:00.0 | got it better than they did, |
| 1:02.0 | and they did not have economic opportunity. |
| 1:04.7 | And I wanted to talk to them about, |
| 1:06.7 | how can we change that for them? |
| 1:09.5 | And then time got away from us. And Charlie kept going until he became one of the biggest speakers on college campuses all around this country. And the reason I'm doing a quick podcast on it is because it has rattled me so deeply. I think the freedom of speech |
| 1:28.9 | and the First Amendment is one of the most powerful things we can have as a country. I'm a former |
| 1:33.7 | journalist. Our entire profession is built upon that, that right to speak. And that, you know, I have a |
| 1:44.0 | belief that deep down inside, if you cannot beat someone's |
| 1:46.4 | arguments, then you need to be better skilled, not to hope they die. I wrote down a few things |
| 1:55.9 | because I didn't want to mess this up too badly by doing it publicly. But I have a couple thoughts. And the first thought |
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