Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug. Each episode

here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their

process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled

veteran attempting to write new lyrics with large language

models or else a scrappy upstart, attempting to record to a vintage acetate that you

bought on eBay.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad

excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey, everybody. It's the second Friday of March 2025, and I thank you for being here.

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