What you're about to hear will test the very boundaries of the definition of the meaning of

Wheels Off. Not really. It's just, it's crazy that I got to interview Murray Hammond for Wheels Off.

This is a man who was my mentor and has been my best friend, brother in old 97s,

for decades and decades and decades, for four decades actually.

He submitted to the Wheels Off treatment because he has a new record out, a brilliant new album,

and he produced my new record that is also just out.

And a few days after this episode drops, he and I will be taking off on a tour of the West Coast together.

He'll be opening the shows with his little combo, and I'll be headlining.

And we may be getting together to do a few songs at the end of the night.

But what you're about to hear is a proper wheels off,

wherein I ask Murray Hammond to break it down for me,

his experience as an artist, his life as a creative person, and what it means, and how does he make it work?

And he's great. Of course, we go off on a bunch of wild tangents. It is a little long.

It's a longer than a usual wheels off because Murray is a verbose person, and maybe I am too,

and we get into some, we go down some rabbit holes.

We make each other laugh.

It gets a little kooky, but I think you guys are really going to enjoy this.

So please welcome to Wheels Off, the great Murray Hammond. We can officially begin by

saying, welcome to Wheels Off Murray Hammond. Howdy, my friend. How are you? I'm good, Red. I am so

thrilled to be doing one of your Wheels Off finally. I never wanted to ask, but I knew, I knew we're going to find a

special reason to do one one of these days. And here we are. I love it. I love it. Well, we've got a double

reason, your album and the album that we made together. Yeah. Yeah, we'll get into all that. It's, yeah, and congratulations on the new record. And I can't wait for people to start saying nice things about it. That's my job. I'm supposed to say what you just said. Congratulations. Congratulations on the new record, Murray, your new record. And I can't wait for the whole world to hear it even more than they already have.

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