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As a devout Christian, John List was brought up to believe in second chances.

Whether it was Jesus forgiving our sins or Lazarus rising from the grave, John's religion taught him the value of a fresh start.

In the fall of 1971, John was in need of one himself, but instead of asking for help,

he decided to take matters into his own hands.

And his solution was more terrifying than anyone could ever imagine. The human mind is powerful. It shapes how we think, feel, love, and hate.

But sometimes it drives people to commit the unthinkable. This is Killer

Mines, a crimehouse original. I'm Vanessa Richardson. And I'm Dr. Tristan Engels. Every Monday and

Thursday we uncover the darkest minds in history, analyzing what makes a killer.

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Before we get into the story, you should know it contains descriptions of extreme

violence and violence toward children. Listener discretion is advised. Today, we conclude our deep dive

on John List. His upbringing in a strict religious community gave him a very specific vision of what a suburban

American family should look like. When his loved ones failed to live up to his impossible

expectations, he killed them one after the other. Then he vanished without a trace.

As Vanessa takes you through the story, I'll be talking about things like how some

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