Hi, it's Kaylin Moore. Crime House is home to the most gripping true crime shows, and I would love for you to check out my show that I co-host with Morgan Apscher. Clues. Want to sneak past the crime scene tape to explore the key evidence behind some of the most gripping true crime cases? Well, each week on Clues, we open up a new case file and dig into the key evidence that either solved or left authorities baffled behind the most infamous criminal cases.

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It's easy to idealize the 1950s nuclear family, the manicured lawns, the cheap real estate, the company pension funds.

Sometimes it seems a lot simpler than the world we live in now.

But behind the white picket fences, it wasn't always so easy. For every picture-perfect family, there were the ones whose marriages were crumbling,

whose children were misbehaving, or who were drowning in debt.

No one felt that struggle more than John List.

A man who was obsessed with cultivating the image of the All-American Patriarch,

he spent every penny he had trying to keep up with the Joneses.

But when his finances collapsed, he began to consider other options, extreme options.

Eventually, John came to a disturbing conclusion. Under his strict standards, the only acceptable

replacement for an imperfect family was a dead one.

The human mind is powerful.

It shapes how we think, feel, love, and hate.

But sometimes it drives people to commit the unthinkable.

This is Killer Minds, a crimehouse original.

I'm Vanessa Richardson.

And I'm Dr. Tristan Ingalls. Every Monday and Thursday we uncover the darkest minds in history,

analyzing what makes a killer.

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