Throughout the course of history, there's been no mod of mysteries, but never won't quite as far as the secret garden of Babylon.

Of Babylon, oh Babylon, the garden, O Babylon, do not surrender. Oh kids that bloom all year round.

An action fountain that makes not a sound.

So check out this garden, please don't be afraid.

It's Lucy and Sam's Perfect Brace.

Lucy and Sam's Perfect Brace. Lucy and Sam's Perfect Brains.

Lucy and Sam's Perfect Braits.

This podcast will be recorded for training purposes only.

We just see you as like a little pink orb.

That is me.

I am a pink orb.

Welcome to Perfect Brains podcast.

And I'm here, as always, with Lucy Beaumont.

Hello, hello.

It is as always.

We haven't rotated, have we?

No, it's always us, too.

And I think that's good to have the two sort of consistent.

Yeah, for people to know that whatever happens, there will be hopefully two of us. And would you say that we're sort of quite off-the-wall types? No. Today we have a guest who is very much on the wall. It is a famous muralologist. This is someone who's involved in the world of murals, Dean Zeus. Hello. Am I ready to speak now? Oh, yeah, yeah. So that's just we do a bit of an intro and get everyone excited. Okay, Koki. Neurologist. That's a new one. I've never heard of a muralologist. What do you call someone who does murals? A muralist, probably. Yeah, artist. Artist, we love artists. Yes. More artists, less soldiers.

So what do you want to know?

Has any of you done any kind of street art or murals before?

Lucy's in a mural, in hall.

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