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Nomad Podcast

Munther Isaac - Gaza, God and Genocide (N337)

Nomad Podcast

Tim Nash

Christianity, Faithshift, Deconstruction, Christianmysticism, Religion & Spirituality, Christianspirituality, Progressivechristian, Christian, Religion, Emergingchurch

4.7 • 658 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2025

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we speak with Munther Isaac about the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict, and what led to the current crisis in Gaza. Munther, a Palestinian pastor and theologian, reflects on the intersection of theology and politics, and what faith, hope and love might mean in the face of such terrible suffering.

Following the interview Nomad hosts Joy Brooks and Tim Nash reflect on the emotional response they’ve felt in the face of this crisis, the role Christian Zionism played in the faith they inherited and whether the bible could still have a place in their evolving spirituality when it’s been so horribly misused.   

Interview starts at 17m 50s

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The Welcome back to Nomad podcast. I'm Tim Nash and for the first time in 2025. This is Joy Brooks.

0:43.1

Hello. Does your name reflect your emotional state joy as we enter this new year?

0:48.3

It depends how you define joy, doesn't it? So we could get we can... I don't know how to define it.

0:53.4

No, exactly. It's something that people have endlessly debated, isn't it? I don't know how to define it. No, exactly.

0:54.8

It's something that people have endlessly debated, isn't it?

0:58.3

So, yeah, it's quite the name, isn't it, when you think about it in terms of what it is meant to mean?

1:03.9

It's a high-pressure name, isn't it?

1:05.8

Yeah, it can be.

1:07.2

It really can be.

1:09.0

But, yeah, entering 2025, I think there's just the whole range of feelings

1:14.1

about entering 2025, and some of them are positive and cheery, and some of them are probably

1:19.4

gloomy and dark. My name means honouring God, apparently, but kind of mercifully, it's cloaked

1:24.8

in Greek. I think if my name was literally honouring God, I'd have amassed even more spiritual baggage.

1:31.2

Do you know what I mean?

1:32.6

Yeah, I'd struggle as well with the whole addressing you.

1:38.7

Hi, honouring God.

1:40.9

Oh, I've just got triggered by your name.

1:44.1

But yeah, there's a lot to be genuinely concerned about in this coming year. But, oh, I've just got triggered by your name.

1:48.7

But, yeah, there's a lot to be genuinely concerned about in this coming year, isn't there?

1:53.7

But, of course, for you, Joy, on top of everything that's going on in the world, you've just turned 50, haven't you?

1:57.6

I'm now in the wise sage territory, I think.

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