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Wrong Turns with Jameela Jamil

Munroe Bergdorf

Wrong Turns with Jameela Jamil

Jameela Jamil

Society & Culture, Jameela Jamil, Storytelling, Disasters, Personal Journals, Comedians, Comedy Interviews, Conversation, Stand-up, Comedy, Funny, True Stories, Shame, Embarassing

4.73.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2020

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Activist, spokesperson, and model Munroe Bergdorf joins Jameela this week to discuss her experience as a black transgender woman, to dispel untrue arguments against the transgender cause, to talk about how to be a better ally, and to share about her recent reconciliation with L'Oreal.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to another episode of iWay with Tomato Jamel. I hope this episode finds you well.

0:04.3

I'm alright, just a bit stressed. Been on my phone way too much, 13, 14 hours a day. Sometimes

0:09.7

just reading the news and Twitter and Instagram and watching the news cycle continue to be so devastating

0:15.7

and scary and watching all the vitriol and bloodthirst online or the bigotry that seems to be pouring

0:20.4

out because after any moment of progress there's always a horrific backlash. I also, you know,

0:27.1

incredibly disheartened watching the way that the government is utilising a moment of distraction

0:31.1

and chaos and panic to take away more and more rights from the most marginalized people. It's just

0:36.7

pretty devastating and I'm starting to have actual panic attacks. So if you are out there and also

0:41.1

struggling, know that while it is important to be informed and engaged and helpful you don't have

0:45.9

to be plugged in all of the time because you're just going to burn out and then be no good to anyone.

0:52.7

So maybe we all need to scale back a bit. Speaking of rights being taken away over in the UK,

0:59.4

trans rights are being rolled back and I was very lucky to be able to get hold of the very busy

1:04.6

and very important and very extraordinary world famous trans activist Monroe Bergdorf. She is a

1:12.5

young black trans woman and has a very specific and unique lens and so articulate and smart and

1:21.5

funny and human in this episode and just gave me, it's so rare when someone with such a big platform

1:28.7

is so willing to be so unguarded with you and she just went all the way there with me. I do have to

1:34.0

give you a trigger warning at one point we talk about some very very upsetting sexual violence that she

1:40.4

was on the receiving end of, we talk about it kind of just past halfway or towards the end of

1:45.3

this episode and it might be upsetting for you to hear. I think it's important to hear about if it's

1:50.0

something that won't hurt and trigger you but it really gives you a full sense, a full explanation

1:58.0

of her experience on this podcast really gives you a sense of what it's like for her, for people

2:04.0

like her, for people in the trans community, what their day-to-day existence is like how much

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